This is the full version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Gordon Change. The interview was released on Epoch TV on August 16, 2025.As the Trump administration gives China another 90-day extension on elevated tariffs, Jan Jekielek is sitting down with China analyst Gordon Chang to get his read on U.S.-China trade talks, signs of infighting in Beijing and trouble for Xi Jinping, and the recent stunning destruction of a Chinese coast guard vessel by a Chinese navy warship.Gordon Chang is the author of “Plan Red: China’s Project to Destroy America.”CHAPTERS0:00:00 Xi Jinping’s Waning Control 0:00:28 Infighting in Beijing and the Scarborough Shoal Incident 0:03:49 Historical Context of South China Sea Disputes 0:06:05 Chinese Expansionism and Global Ambitions 0:07:58 Leadership Struggles within the Chinese Communist Party 0:12:14 Political Turmoil and Risks of Escalation 0:14:08 US Investment in Chinese Military-Linked Companies 0:17:17 Hong Kong’s Loss of Autonomy and US Policy Failures 0:18:22 Western Engagement and Compromises with China 0:21:09 Democracies’ Weaknesses in Defending Against Threats 0:22:37 Transnational Repression and Chinese Networks in the US 0:25:44 Border Security and Chinese Espionage Concerns 0:27:39 Examples of CCP Influence and Coercion in America 0:30:01 US Trade Policy and Tariff Extensions 0:33:38 Chinese Interference in US Elections 0:35:41 President Trump’s Approach to China and Trade 0:37:41 The Chinese Economy and Risks of Collapse 0:40:49 Is China Too Big to Fail? Possible Futures 0:43:31 Taiwan and Post-Communist Scenarios 0:44:39 US Policy Mistakes in Propping Up the CCP 0:46:15 Final Thoughts: The Need for Robust US MeasuresViews expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
