China and Russia Secretly Hate Each Other

China and Russia may seem like allies because of Xi Jinping and Valdimir Putin repeated statements about how they have a “no limits” friendship. But that superficial friendship masks a very large rift between Russia and China that goes back decades, if not centuries. Joining us in this episode is Michael Listner, the founder of Space Law & Policy Solutions. His company consults with the governments and policymakers on issues related to outer space security.