There are some who think that the problem with China is its president, Xi Jinping. If Xi Jinping were removed from power, some say, China would go back to being a normal country. But Xi Jinping is a symptom of China’s problem, not the problem itself. In this episode of China Unscripted, we talk about why changing leaders wouldn’t substantially change things, China’s zero covid policy, and the Longer Telegram, believed to written by former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. Joining us in this episode is